Robin D. Laws - Goodbye Reptile Brain
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Goodbye Reptile Brain

David Berreby’s popular science book Us and Them: Understanding Your Tribal Mind looks at the process of dividing people into categories from a cognitive science perspective. It explores evidence suggesting that the process of determining whether someone is “us” or “not us” happens at a very basic perceptual level. This seems like a grim thought, implying that racist and/or tribal thinking is so deeply rooted as to be inescapable. Berreby counters pessimism by suggesting that our tribal sorting mechanism is also highly fluid, dependent strongly on circumstance. Put in a new situation, we don’t abandon “us-not us” sorting, but may at least rapidly adopt new sorting methods.
Incidentally, Berreby also shows that a scientific concept of the early 90s that has filtered into pop culture is already outdated.
We do not, it seems, have a reptile brain which is the seat of primitive response and information, overlaid by a more sophisticated mammalian brain. Nor is the limbic system clearly a storehouse of instinctive responses. Scans of people placed under stress show a much more complex firing pattern, with flares of activity throughout the brain.
As a human, I am happy to see it go. As a writer, not so much, since it was such a vivid image, one I think I’ve drawn on in the past.
Its power as an image no doubt helps to account for its widespread adoption, in the face of iffy evidence.
The best example of this phenomenon, where scientific ideas get taken up by the arts and are held onto even after research sets it aside, is the work of C. G. Jung. Mainstream psychology has moved on from Jung, but his notion of archetypes continues to inform our understanding of narrative. We genre practitioners frequently resort to it, often through the filter of Joseph Campbell, to justify the depth of our escapist heroes.
Berreby doesn’t get into it, but the cognitive science of rapid categorization could restore Jung’s concepts to scientific currency. If we instantly decide all sorts of things about people, placing them into broader types, it’s not such a leap to think that we personalize abstract concepts by granting them personal characteristics and grouping them into archetypes.
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![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/39347965/3608674) | | From: | 2h2o |
| Date: | December 4th, 2008 02:27 pm (UTC) |
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It occurs to me that Freud and Jung are analogous to Plato and Aristotle in their fields -- they lacked (or ignored) scientific rigor, but their "what sounds good" methods were persuasive enough that their works endure.
Ayup. Freudian descendant repressed memory, of all those satanic ritual abuse freak-outs, is a perfect example - it makes for a great story even if the evidence is, um, not.
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/17282096/3813106) | | From: | gbsteve |
| Date: | December 4th, 2008 03:11 pm (UTC) |
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I'm glad to see the end of the reptile brain. It offended my darwinian sensibilities. But I do like Jung, in as much as his stuff is easily mapable onto the Cthulhu Mythos.
I apologise if I've already recommended Mary Douglas' Purity and Danger to you... it seems like I wind up recommending it to everyone, eventually. It's not science, just observation, but I find it a really useful perspective on this kinds of categorising.
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| Date: | December 4th, 2008 04:32 pm (UTC) |
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Damn, and I loved being able to call that bit "Lizardbrain." And narrate for it. "Shut up, lizardbrain!" "Oh yeah!? Just try controlling your core temperature without me!"
Le sigh. More great imagery crushed by progress. Oh well.
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/66619478/179498) | | From: | flwyd |
| Date: | December 4th, 2008 04:43 pm (UTC) |
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As a reptilian artifact, I'd think your lizardbrain wouldn't be very good at controlling core temperature. (I usually do follow my lizardbrain's instructions to lie in the sun spot on the floor in the winter, though.)
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/85148224/2335379) | | From: | wyldelf |
| Date: | December 4th, 2008 07:26 pm (UTC) |
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You could replace it with Monkeysphere (or even Monkeybrain) which is how I came across the concepts Berreby seems to be discussing. Although his name isn't mentioned so it might only be tangentally related. But its surprisingly insightful for being from Cracked magazine.
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/53750833/179498) | | From: | flwyd |
| Date: | December 4th, 2008 04:40 pm (UTC) |
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Talking about our reptilian brain is sort of like talking about our amphibian spine or English's German grammar. We've inherited features of both from a long line of animal ancestors, but it's not preserved in its original form.
I find it interesting how quickly us/not us can become over trivial distinctions. Split a cohesive student group into red and blue teams and have each make up a skit. "Red team rocks, blue team sucks!" Then when red/blue is over they're back to "Our student group rocks, that other student group sucks!"
My hippy-influenced elementary school valued inclusion highly. If students set up an exclusive group, the teachers would suggest a modification that would let everyone be a part of the group, but it would still feel special. "What if we make it a club for people who are wearing a shirt today?"
| From: | (Anonymous) |
| Date: | December 20th, 2008 04:29 pm (UTC) |
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You all need to learn about the reptilian brain before you say it is worthless, We will NEVER lose it and you'd better be glad you've got, it is due to the reptilian brain that you have a heartbeat and that you fight back when in danger and many other vital things, so next learn about something before you judge it!
| From: | (Anonymous) |
| Date: | January 29th, 2009 08:19 am (UTC) |
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I forgot to say it tells you when you are hungry so you don't starve, thats good ain't it? It also the legacy of our reptilian ancestors |
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